 1817 - 1888 (70 years)
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| Name |
John Gubbins Turner |
| Born |
5 Nov 1817 |
Tavistock, Devon, England  |
| Christened |
18 Nov 1817 |
Tavistock, Devon, England |
| Gender |
Male |
| Died |
1888 |
Australia |
| Person ID |
I10947 |
Main |
| Last Modified |
19 May 2020 |
| Father |
John Turner |
| Mother |
Mary Gubbins, b. 1779, Poundstock, Cornwall, England , d. Aft 1861, Devon, England (Age 83 years) |
| Notes |
Married:
- There are two boys named John (John #3 and John #4 below) whose parents are listed on original documents as John and Mary Turner, baptised by W. Rooker, in the same church register, in Tavistock, Devon.
John #1 Turner - possible father of John #2
John #2 Turner - husband of Mary, listed as father of John #3 and
John #3 Gubbins - b.5 Nov c 18 Nov 1817 (the "s" is clearly visible in the record)
John #4 Turner - b. 20 Jan 1819 c.4 Feb 1819
Soome possibilities:
John (#3) Gubbins Turner died young - His parents (John #2 and Mary) re-used his name for John #4 as was common in that era. Following the British Isles naming convention, John #2 Turner's first son should be named after his father - John #1. One problem with this theory is that a John Gubbins Turner with the same birth date as John #3 Gubbins was transported to Australlia and died there in 1888. One problem with this theory is that John #4 Turner was not listed as John Gubbins in the christening book. Perhaps an omission, or by design to differentiate, but an anomaly either way since the parents and the minister were the same.
John (#3) Gubbins Turner was adopted - His biological mother possibly died when he was born, and perhaps his father (a Gubbins), was dead or unable to provide care. Mary and John #2 would have reason to adopt him if John #3 Gubbins was Mary's nephew, possibly the son of her brother and his deceased wife. One additional point supporting the adoption theory is Elizabeth "Eliza" Turner was b. 20 Nov 1816 slightly less than one year before John #3 Gubbins was born. It's somewhat unusual for births to be this close even at that time. Subsequent children were more spaced out. This theory is compatible with John #3 Gubbins dying in Australia in 1888.
John (#4) - was John #2 and Mary's first biological son. In this case "John #4 Turner" was not re-used, it was required by convention that he be named after John #1. [2]
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| Family ID |
F2627 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
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| Documents |
 | John Gubbins Turner - Christening record.
Name: John Gubbins Turner
Birth Date: 5 Nov 1817
Event Type: Baptism
Father: John Turner
Mother: Mary Turner
Baptism Date: 18 Nov 1817
Baptism Place: Tavistock, Devon, England
Denomination: Independent
Piece Title: Piece 0451: Tavistock (Independent), 1796-1837
Source Citation
The National Archives of the UK; Kew, Surrey, England; General Register Office: Registers of Births, Marriages and Deaths surrendered to the Non-parochial Registers Commissions of 1837 and 1857; Class Number: RG 4; Piece Number: 451
Source Information
Ancestry.com. England & Wales, Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers, 1567-1970 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2013. |
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| Sources |
- [SAuth] John Spencer Howell, Jr., John Spencer Howell, Jr., (http://www.jhowell.com/ jhowell@jhowell.com).
- [S518] John Spencer Howell, Jr., John Spencer Howell, Jr., (http://www.jhowell.com/ jhowell@jhowell.com), research notes.
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